Reincarnation Examination

Examination of the Phenomenon and Research of Reincarnation

Updated: August 10, 2009

The most convincing aspects of the Reincarnation Phenomenon to me are the numerous well documented cases of Spontaneous Past Life Recall of young children (typically from the time they first begin talking until they are around seven years of age) where they recall numerous very important often obscure veridical details from a previous life that turn out to be correct, information they and their families couldn't have ordinarily known or obtained. Even if the previous person was totally obscure and living hundreds or thousands of miles away and seperate by a period of years or decades or longer. Often very specific "unknowable" details come through in addition to personal and life event details, such as where they hid important things, and family secrets unrevealed to outsiders, privite events in their life that are only known to the immediate family or a perticular family member, and even details not currently known, but later discovered to have been accurate. Numerous well documented cases where birthmarks or scars in the present life match those of death marks or injuries or scars in their previous lives. Numerous well documented cases of people having intense fears or phobias or physical problems in their present life that is traced to a previous life either through Spontaneous Past Life Recall or through undergoing Past Life Regression, that is then completely cured by them remembering it and confronting it. Numerous well documented cases where a person undergoing Past Life Regression speaks an unlearned foreign language in the manner of the dialect of the time, including persons who speak dead languages during their Past Life Regression. Several noted cases of people born blind who were able to see during a Spontaneous Past Life Recall or through undergoing Past Life Regression in which they had recalled living a previous sighted life. Etc.

The best cases do not deal with weak data, but with very specific veridical details, where not a few, but dozens upon dozens of key statements are verified. Key dazzleshot veridical details, obscure veridical details known only to the person and their closest family members, veridical details known only through painstaking research (not easily known, especially given the education of the person and their family), veridical details from their previous life (checked and confirmed to exist) that they, their family, and the investigators couldn't have possibly known, things known only to the previous person, or only known as a secret between them and their family, where they hid documents and other personal valuables, where they had scars or injuries on their bodies, obscure events in their life that was never written down or talked about until the previous family was told about it and remembered, etc. Details that are not confirmed until years later due to the current historical record not having that information, xenoglossy, curing of phobias and fears from these recalls, and the biggest of all, birthmarks in the present life matching death marks and scars from the veridically recalled previous life, complete with medical records and autopsy reports. These keep the phenomenon interesting.

(I will discuss individual best of the best cases indepth in an upcoming seperate article.)

***Answering Arguments Of The Skeptics***

Skeptic Argument # 1: Everyone who claims to have remembered a past life always remembers being someone famous, never anyone normal or ordinary, and several different people have claimed to have the same past life.

Ridiculously inaccurate beyond even being laughable. People who make this statement have obviously NEVER read the actual research on Reincarnation, nor any actual research cases, because if they had, they would realize that the vast majority of Reincarnation cases that are taken seriously and are well documented which contain numerous veridical details of past lives, ARE of people recalling normal ordinary lives. There are a very few seriously taken cases of people claiming to recall the life of some famous, and even then, most of the time it is someone obscure to the general public, such as a little known artist who is known to people in that profession, but not famous enough to be recognize by the general public, and the information that comes through is Veridical and Obscure enough to be taken seriously.

As for more than one person claiming to remember the same past life, it's all in the veridical details. You will find hundreds of gullible New Agers claiming they are peter pan, cleopatra, napoleon, marilyn monroe, or darth vader, but do their "memories" add up to things they couldn't have possibly known? That's the checker.

Skeptic Argument # 2: Most cases of Reincarnation are reported in countries where belief in Reincarnation is the norm, and it is even encouraged.

My Answer: While many cases are, there are also many exceptions to this. Most of the Best Cases of Reincarnation that I have personally come across have come from America or European Countries, where Reincarnation is not the norm, and where it is discouraged. Many of the people and families in these cases were Christians or Non-Religious People who did not believe in Reincarnation and it even went against the belief system that they were raised with and adhered to. There are a number of books and reports on these well documented cases in these countries.

In addition, even in cases in which Reincarnation is reported in countries that believe in Reincarnation (such as India) they will often happen to families that are of a Religious Belief that does not believe in Reincarnation, such as Muslims and Christians, to the dismay of their parents.

The reason many critics use this argument is because Ian Stevenson's earliest published research books that got widespread attention consisted of mostly cases from those countries (because they were more prone to discussing their experiences there, as opposed to America where reincarnation is greatly discouraged in families due to Christian Upbringings), but he later did a research book on many veridical cases of european and american families with reincarnation, and a number of researchers in the years after him have gathered many additional cases from american and european families.

Skeptic Argument # 3: During past life regression and even spontaneous past life recall, there is always the possibility of false memories coming out.

True. However, when a person under regression begins to speak an unlearned foreign language, or even a dead language, and comes up with veridical details that can be checked with historical sources, even very obscure information that takes tons of indepth research to confirm, some of which is not confirmed until decades after the fact, it's far more plausible that these are authentic memories of an authentic past life. There are also the cases where the person had a lifelong phobia or physical ailment that is cured after remembering details from a past life where the phobia or ailment originated. That also lends credence to it being an authentic past life. It's also interesting to note that most researchers point out that when such people describe the era they were reliving so vividly, they often describe it better than the best historians.

Skeptic Argument # 4: Linguist Sarah Thomason's attacks on Xenoglossy Research.

Linguist Sarah Thomason has written several debunkery articles attempting to discredit Dr. Ian Stevenson's Xenoglossy Work over the years. The title of her key article attacking the Xenoglossy Work of Dr. Ian Stevenson is, "Stupid Dead People Communication Tricks", which gives you an idea from the title as to how cynical and one-sided her approtch to the subject is. She has been completely discredited with opposing facts and evidence that was supplied to me by the good folks over at www.childpastlives.org which I will post below. In short... (and I quote)

"In his book "Xenoglossy" Dr. Ian Stevenson documented a study he made of a 37 year old American woman. Under hypnosis she experienced a complete change of voice and personality into that of a male. She spoke fluently in the Swedish language, a language she did not speak or understand when in the normal state of consciousness. Dr Stevenson's direct involvement with this case lasted more than eight years. The study involved linguists and other experts and scientists who meticulously investigated every alternative explanation. Others have followed in Dr. Stevenson's footsteps and offered up impressive cases for research and obtained similar results."

(The critic in question dishonestly acted as though no expert linguists were present with Dr. Ian Stevenson in his research, which is completely untrue, she also cherry picked the weakest Xenoglossy cases in existence to attack, with common languages such as german and french, ignoring the stronger cases of more remote languages and even dead languages coming through in Xenoglossy, especially in cases where the person lived in an area where there is no access to such languages, remote or dead. Many examples of these are provided in one of the key links I will provide below.)

I made two topics on www.childpastlives.org clearing up further Skeptical Arguments used against Reincarnation and Xenoglossy...

http://www.childpastlives.org/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=130 38 - Question Regarding Geographical Beliefs In Ian Stevenson's Cases Of Reincarnation

http://www.childpastlives.org/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=129 97 - Question regarding Xenoglossy Research in Reincarnation Cases of Past Life Regression

http://www.childpastlives.org/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=14581 - Tackling A Skeptic's Arguments

Links with *some* of the best cases (by no means complete by a long shot) are here...

http://www.victorzammit.com/book/4thedition/chapter24.html - Victor Zammit's Book's Chapter on Reincarnation (despite my dislike for Victor Zammit's arrogent outspokenness and his gullibility in certain areas, he does a very good job presenting an overview of indepth veridical information on some of the best cases of Reincarnation, complete with reliable sources.)

http://www.childpastlives.org/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=351 8 - A good forum post containing links to information on some of the best cases.

http://www.wie.org/j32/reincarnation.asp - Death, Rebirth, and Everything in Between: A Scientific and Philosophical Exploration, by Carter Phipps

A decent article on Ian Stevenson's research in perticular, including matching birthmarks...

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation01.html

Two Books I can recommend on the subject that I have personally read are...

"One Soul, Many Lives: First Hand Stories of Reincarnation and the Striking Evidence of Past Lives" by Roy Stemman, which is an indepth overview of the best of the best veridical cases of Reincarnation, documented from numerous reliable sources.

David Fontana's "Is There An Afterlife?: A Comprehensive Overview of the Evidence". I have read through the book, and in each and every chapter, he presents all avalible evidence and presents both pro-researcher arguments and skeptic arguments and pro-researcher counter-arguments and skeptic counter-arguments, etc. He presents the full data and full set of arguments for and against as is. It deals with far more than simply Reincarnation though.

The book is interesting, because at the beginning of each chapter, he presents the weaker, mildly veridical cases, and shows how easily they can be explained away, but then he goes on to present stronger and stronger cases, with more and more solid and obscure veridical details that are harder to explain away, and then goes on to present the best of the best cases, all the while putting forth the arguments and counter-arguments of both sides.

The book has a full Five Star Rating on Amazon and incredible reviews. I highly recommend it if you want a fair presentation of both sides.

Here are several TV & Documentary Segments on YouTube on some of these cases...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EWwzFwUOxA - Veridical Case of James 3 (Part 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5965wcH2Kx0 - Veridical Case of James 3 (Part 2)

The above segment however does not contain all of the avalible information on the James 3 case, just a brief overview of the case, showcasing many of the verified dazzleshot past life memories. A more indepth article on this case in perticular, containing additional veridical information, is here...

http://www.ntcsites.com/acadianhouse/nss-folder/publicfolder /AP/cover_feature_24_3.htm - The Past Life Memories of James Leininger

Last time I discussed this case on a message forum I was hit by a Skeptical Article that claimed to "expose" the case, and I looked at it, found it to be a distorted one-sided half-truthed presentation that did not deal with the overall facts and circumstances of the case, and made unfounded assumptions that are easily checked and countered, and so I rebutted it in full here in this topic post on this forum here (childpastlives.org), in two parts, along with rebutting several other skeptical explainations of the case I have heard...

http://www.childpastlives.org/vBulletin/showpost.php?p=15897 6&postcount=11 - Rebuttal of Skeptics' Arguments against James 3 Case (Part 1)

http://www.childpastlives.org/vBulletin/showpost.php?p=15897 7&postcount=12 - Rebuttal of Skeptics' Arguments against James 3 Case (Part 2)

Several other segments on YouTube of Reincarnation Cases...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB_j-chZvR0 - Veridical Case of Robert Snow (A highly skeptical chief of police who investigated his own past life memories following a hypnotic regression, and confirmed dozens of obscure veridical details, which he was only able to confirm by getting ahold of the dead man's diary from almost a century earlier, loaned from a museum. In his regression he even mentioned he did a painting of a hunchback woman in this previous life, which he was later able to find and obtain in real life, painted by the same guy he remembered being.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OarxB-dsK8U - Case of a four year old boy who recalled life as an 18 year old WWI Soilder named James who was shot through the throat and killed. The four year old suffered from a throat tumor in the same location his previous self was shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQHp9bGVDB8 - Someone Else's Yesterday (Fireman who recalls previous life as a general in the civil war, his scars and birthmarks in his present life exactly match those the general obtained during battle, he also greatly resembles the general.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5cGSUBU8-w - Excellent Documentary on Reincarnation titled "The Boy Who Lived Before". This program looks at two perticular amazing veridical cases of two small children recalling past lives, and researches their cases from all angles, and interviews serious reincarnation researchers and serious skeptics alike for their insights, and does an investigation with one of the kids in real time, with very interesting results.

Near Death Experiences / Out Of Body Experiences: An Indepth Examination of Veridical Evidence

Near Death Experiences / Out Of Body Experiences: An Indepth Examination of Veridical Evidence & The Rebuttal of Common Skeptical Explainations

Updated: August 10, 2009

Veridical Perception & Veridical Information gained during Near Death Experiences / Out Of Body Experiences, even during a flat EEG where brain and heart activity have ceased, and even in cases of persons born blind:

There are a number of highly interesting documented cases of people having near death experiences / out of body experiences, even during a flat EEG where brain and heart activity have ceased, returning with factual information which they had no prior knowledge of, and numerous cases in which the experiencers returned to life with information unavailable to them at the time of death.

These include being able to accurately tell the doctors what they were doing while they were clinically dead, what clothes they wore, what procedures and instruments they used, and any conversations being said, including accurate blow by blow accounts of their own resuscitation from a bird's eye point of view, the details of which can later be checked and verified to be true.

Often times they also describe what was happening out in the hallway, who was sitting in the waiting room, what was happening on the other side of the building, and conversations being said at these same locations, all while they were clinically dead elsewhere. The events witnessed, heard, and experienced later being verified to be true. Even obscure objects on the roof have been seen and verified.

There are also accounts of experiencers meeting deceased relatives during an NDE that the person did not know was dead, such as a relative or a friend, and finding out that they were in fact deceased after the fact, and learning information from them that they could not have otherwise known.

There are many accounts of children and adult NDErs learning about relatives and siblings who had died before their own birth that they never met or were never told about, etc.

Also, people who are blind, and some people who have been blind since birth, have been able to accurately perceive visual surroundings during their experience. Many people have also been informed of knowledge far beyond their personal capacity. Etc.

The most convincing aspect of these, is that a number of them were recounted, recorded, and documented IMMEDIATELY or VERY SOON after the patient regained consciousness to the doctors, nurses, staff, and family members, not long after the fact.

(I will discuss individual best of the best cases indepth in an upcoming seperate article.)

Interestingly, there have in fact been Successful Experiments in actually testing Veridical NDEs...

* Many doctors, nurses, medical staff, paramedics, and family members have been interviewed by NDE Researchers to obtain cross-referanced verifiable information between the stories of the patients concerning their Veridical NDEs and the cross-referanced experiences of the medical staff involved with them.

* Dr. Michael Sabom did a study on over 57 cardiac patients who had clinically died and were brought back, 32 of whom had experienced Veridical OBEs and had described in great detail their own resusitations during cardiac arrest, and 25 of whom had not experienced an OBE during their cardiac arrest. He had two groups, the experiencers who saw in their OBEs and the non-experiencers who did not, describe their resusitations. To his suprise, 80% of the non-experiencers made serious mistakes. On the other hand, all of the experiencers did not make a single mistake.

Accourding to PMH Atwater in her book "The Complete Idiots Guide To Near-Death Experiences" regarding Dr. Michael Sabom's Research Study...

"Experiencers even correctly detailed readings on medical machines that were not in their line of vision, and described other circumstances they should not otherwise have been able to know."

* Dr. Pim Van Lommel did a more indepth study with 344 cardiac patients independently of Dr. Michael Sabom with similar results.

They made sure that their subjects could be verified as flatlined during the experiences. (This is significant because the brain flat-lines within 4 to 20 seconds of cardiac arrest.)

* Dr. Kenneth Ring did a study on Veridical NDEs of 31 persons who were blind (a number of whom were born blind) and found that they could veridically "see" events while their OBE unfolded the same way sighted people's do.

I'd like to add that Dr. Michael Sabom and Dr. Pim Van Lommel and Dr. Kenneth Ring's Research were published in PEER REVIEWED Science Journals. Most notably The Lancet Medical Journal.

Here is an excellent list of arguments in favor of the phenomenon by IANDS...

* Once a person's brainwaves have ceased, indicating that all mental activity has stopped - perceiving, thinking, and remembering - how do we explain their accurate perception of events going on around their 'deceased' body (both sight and sound), and their accurate reporting of events taking place even at significant distances from their clinically-dead body?

* If we regard experiencers' perceptions of dead relatives as just imaginary "wishful thinking", how can we explain their accurate description of relatives previously unknown to them, yet later verified by living relatives and by civil documents?

* If the spiritual component of the near-death experience could be explained away as just an extension of the person's pre-existing belief system, why have confirmed atheists come back after their NDE convinced there is a God? And why have religious believers returned from their NDE with un-orthodox changes to their prior dogmas?

Many NDE-accounts seem to include elements which, according to several theorists, can only be explained by an out-of-body consciousness.

As Greyson notes: "No one physiological or psychological model by itself explains all the common features of NDE. The paradoxical occurrence of heightened, lucid awareness and logical thought processes during a period of impaired cerebral perfusion raises particular perplexing questions for our current understanding of consciousness and its relation to brain function. A clear sensorium and complex perceptual processes during a period of apparent clinical death challenge the concept that consciousness is localized exclusively in the brain." (Greyson, 2001)

Research on NDEs occurring in the blind have also hinted that consciousness survives bodily death.

NDE's can also lead to long-lasting spiritual effects (as evidenced by the many studies which confirm the experience as having taken place during clinical death)."

OBE Specific Research:

* The Monroe Institute's OBE Experiments.

* Charles Tart's OBE Experiment of having an experienced OBEr accurately read a five-digit number from an unreachable/unseeable location. 100,000 to 1 chance accuracy.

* Robert Morris' OBE Experiments with Keith Harary who reported accurately on sitters, letters, and positions, in a sealed laboratory 20 yards away.

* Clinical testing of OBEs - in which strain gauges were triggered at a distance, apparently by the test subject's roving presence, and in which an animal reacted consistently as if the subject were in the room when he was reportedly having an OBE while asleep in the next room.

* The US Government's 20 year long Program "Stargate" on Remote Viewing which had a number of amazing positive significant veridical results with Remote Viewers, as well as a number of noted misses.

What do the Skeptics on the other hand have to say about NDEs? Let's be fair now.

Skeptic Argument 1: Dying Brain Theory

The Dying Brain Theory states that upon clinical death the brain is slowly straved of oxygen and creates a vivid hallucination that is later remembered as an NDE.

This theory in truth falls very short of the cold hard medical facts of what happens to the brain after cardiac arrest occurs and when clinical death sets in, and is likewise destroyed by the well documented Veridical Aspects of the NDE Phenomenon itself that are never adaquetely dealt with as a whole.

In total refution of the "Dying Brain Theory" the cold hard medical facts are that when a person's heart stops they lose total consciousness within seconds. The loss of consciousness is complete and there are no memories of the event. EEG and brain stem monitors show no brain activity while in this state. There is no gag reflex, no pupil response, no brain activity whatsoever. They are dead. The brain cannot produce images in this state, and even if it could, you couldn't remember them.

Multiple medical doctors including Peter Fenwick a respected neuropsychiatrist, Pim Van Lommel a cardiologist, Sam Parnia, Bruce Greyson, Ian Stevenson, Melvin Morse, Michael Sabom, and numerous others, will tell you the same thing.

"Simultaneous recording of heart rate and brain output show that within 11 seconds of the heart stopping, the brainwaves go flat. Now, if you read the literature on this, some skeptical people claim that in this state there is still brain activity, but, in fact, the data are against this in both animals and humans. The brain is not functioning, and you are not going to get your electrical activity back again until the heart restarts." (Dr. Peter Fenwick)

Further Dr. Peter Fenwick Quotations:

"Let's look at the physiological state of the brain and body at the time of reported NDEs. No detectable cardiac output, no respiratory output - they certainly weren't breathing. Neither did they have any brain stem reflexes - in other words they was no activity whatsoever in the brain."

"The first point is that signs of cardiac arrest are the same as clinical death. There is no detectable cardiac output, no respiratory effort, and brainstem reflexes are absent. If you are in this state and I put a tube down your throat, you will not cough. You will have dilated pupils. Your blood pressure has fallen to zero. You are, in fact, clinically dead. Even if I start cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR), I cannot get your blood pressure any higher than 30 millimetres of mercury, and this is not going to produce an adequate blood flow to your brain."

"When you are fully unconscious, you show the signs of clinical death which is no respiration, no cardiac output, fully dilated pupils showing that your brain stem is not functioning and that is the clinical criteria of death." (Dr. Peter Fenwick)

Dr. Sam Parnia: "During cardiac arrest brainstem activity is rapidly lost. It should not be able to sustain such lucid processes or allow the formation of lasting memories."

Further Dr. Sam Parnia Quotations:

".....This is termed the delayed hypoperfusion phase and is thought to occur due to a disturbed coupling between brain function, metabolism and blood flow. Clinically, these observations are supported by the loss of brainstem reflexes such as the gag reflex that indicate a loss of brainstem function, which normally activates the cortical areas via the thalamus."

"As seen these experiences appear to be occurring at a time when global cerebral function can at best be described as severely impaired, and at worse non-functional."

"An alternative explanation is that the experiences reported from cardiac arrest, may actually be arising at a time when consciousness is either being lost, or regained, rather than from the actual cardiac arrest period itself. Any cerebral insult leads to a period of both anterograde and retrograde amnesia In fact memory is a very sensitive indicator of brain injury and the length of amnesia before and after unconsciousness is a way of determining the severity of the injury. Therefore, events that occur just prior to or just after the loss of consciousness would not be expected to be recalled. At any rate recovery following a cerebral insult is confusional and cerebral function as measured by EEG has in many cases been shown not to return until many tens of minutes or even a few hours after successful resuscitation." (Dr. Sam Parnia)

Pim Van Lommel's well-known research study published Peer-Reviewed in The Lancet, a leading medical journal, also notes that cerebral activity flatlines within 4 to 20 seconds of cardiac arrest.

Dr. Pim Van Lommel Quotations:

"You can prove that the brain stem is no longer functioning because it regulates our basic reflexes, such as the pupil response and swallowing reflex, which no longer respond. So you can easily stick a tube down someone's throat. The respiratory centre also shuts down. If the individual is not reanimated within five to 10 minutes, their brain cells are irreversibly damaged."

"The fact that in a cardiac arrest loss of cortical function precedes the rapid loss of brainstem activity lends further support to this view."

"From studies of induced cardiac arrest we know that in our Dutch prospective study of patients who survived cardiac arrest (Van Lommel et al., 2001), as well as in the American (Greyson, 2003) and English study (Parnia et al., 2001), not only total lack of electrical activity of the cortex must have been the only possibility, but also the abolition of brain-stem activity."

"However, patients with an NDE can report a clear consciousness. And because of the occasional and verifiable out-of-body experiences, like the one involving the dentures in our study, we know that the NDE must happen during the period of unconsciousness, and not in the first or last seconds of cardiac arrest. So we have to come to the surprising conclusion that during cardiac arrest NDE is experienced during a transient functional loss of all functions of the cortex and of the brainstem."

"What you see when you induce cardiac arrest is that within one second the blood flow to the brain is zero centimeters per second. Within two seconds, it stops totally. After an average of 6.54 seconds, the first ischemic changes show on the EEG, with attenuation of the waves. After 10 to 20 seconds, you have a flat- line EEG, which means the electrical activity of the cortex is gone. The brain stem reflexes- such as the gag reflex and whether the pupils stay dilated - and the medulla oblongata - where the center of breathing is - stops. So that's the functional loss of your total brain. Well, with a heart attack, if it occurs on the coronary care unit, it takes between 60 and 120 seconds before circulation is restored. If it occurs on the general ward, it takes two to five minutes. If it occurs in the street, it usually exceeds five to 10 minutes, and 90 percent of those people will die."

"How could a clear consciousness outside one's body be experienced at the moment that the brain no longer functions during a period of clinical death with flat EEG? . . . Furthermore, blind people have described veridical perception during out-of-body experiences at the time of this experience. NDE pushes at the limits of medical ideas about the range of human consciousness and the mind-brain relation. In our prospective study of patients that were clinically dead (flat EEG, showing no electrical activity in the cortex and loss of brain stem function evidenced by fixed dilated pupils and absence of the gag reflex) the patients report a clear consciousness, in which cognitive functioning, emotion, sense of identity, or memory from early childhood occurred, as well as perceptions from a position out and above their "dead" body." (Van Lommel, Van Wees, Meyers, Elfferich (2001). Near-Death Experience in Survivors of Cardiac Arrest: A Prospective Study in the Netherlands. Lancet.)

The Dying Brain Theory also doesn't explain why only 18% of those who are brought back from clinical death experience an NDE, while the remaining 82% do not. Even under the exact same conditions.

"Our most striking finding was that Near-Death Experiences do not have a physical or medical root. After all, 100 per cent of the patients suffered a shortage of oxygen, 100 per cent were given morphine-like medications, 100 per cent were victims of severe stress, so those are plainly not the reasons why 18 per cent had Near-Death Experiences and 82 per cent didn't. If they had been triggered by any one of those things, everyone would have had Near-Death Experiences." (Van Lommel 1995)

The point being, if anyone of those things, dying brain, etc, had been the trigger, they all would have had NDEs who suffered the same degree of lack of oxygen, but because only 18% did, it's obviously not the trigger for the NDE experience.

I'd like to clarify that even though only 18% of those who are brought back from clinical death experience an NDE (all under the same medical conditions), the LONGER one is clinically dead, the higher the chance of being brought back with an NDE. Those who were clinically dead longer than several minutes have a far higher chance of coming back with an NDE than those who were clinically dead for only a minute or two.

Skeptic Argument 2: DMT Chemicals Causing NDEs

DMT does not account for the Veridical Elements of the NDE, nor the amazing structure of many NDEs, accourding to the book DMT: The Spiritual Molecule, it may act as an initial NDE trigger, but cannot make up for the entire experience, Veridical Elements and all, in addition to the pesky little fact that within 4 to 20 seconds of cardiac arrest, the brain waves go flat, and even if they were sufficient (which they are not), the brain cannot produce images in this state, and even if it could, you couldn't remember them.

Skeptic Argument 3: Ketamine

The Skeptic Sources refering to the Drug Ketamine causing NDEs are referancing an old paper by Ketamine Researcher Dr. Karl Jansen, who has since totally changed his stance on Ketamine actually causing the experiences, and is now far more open to the metaphysical component of NDEs. His current hypothesis is that Ketamine and other triggers of NDEs/OBEs simply act as a "door to a space" rather than actually producing that space. He states that his findings now are more in line with other researchers in his field such as John Lilly and Stanislav Grof.

"I am no longer as opposed to spritual explanations of these phenomena as this article would appear to suggest. Over the past two years (it is quite some time since I wrote it) I have moved more towards the views put forward by John Lilly and Stan Grof. Namely, that drugs and psychological disciplines such as meditation and yoga may render certain 'states' more accessible. The complication then becomes in defining just what we mean by 'states' and where they are located, if indeed location is an appropriate term at all. But the apparent emphasis on matter over mind contained within this particular article no longer accurately represents my attitudes. My forthcoming book 'Ketamine' will consider mystical issues from quite a different perspective, and will give a much stronger voice to those who see drugs as just another door to a space, and not as actually producing that space'." (Dr. Karl Jansen)

Melvin Morse M.D. wrote an insightful article titled "The Right Temporal Lobe And Associated Limbic Lobe Structures As The Biological Interface With An Interconnected Universe" that is along these lines of thought.

Skeptic Argument 4: The Navy Airmen Stress Tests

These are studies where they used Navy Airmen in G-Force stress tests that caused the blood in the heads of the individuals to drain, inducing a state of simulated clinical death, in which NDEs were reported. These do not conflict with the NDE Phenomenon, as the persons were essentially put into a state of simulated clinical death when the blood drained from their heads, and they had an NDE.

Again, like Pim Van Lommel's findings, it only occured in 18% of individuals who underwent and came back from this state of simulated clinical death.

Skeptic Argument 5: Susan Blackmore's Critique Of "The Tunnel"

Regarding the Tunnel that people see during their NDEs, Susan Blackmore has theorized that the optic nerve causes a "Tunnel Effect" due to random neuron firings in the back of the eye to explain away the "Tunnel" that people see.

But a woman named Vicki who was born blind had her optic nerve severed in her incubator at birth, and she still visually saw a Tunnel during her NDE and OBE. And it happened awhile into the actual experience.

The fact is, The Tunnel can appear in front of them, to the side of them, up above them, even through a wall, soon after or long after their clinical death set in. And sometimes even not at all.

The Tunnel is truely a moot point concerning the overall NDE experience.

Skeptic Argument 6: The Assertion That People Only See And Experience What They Already Believed

While this may be true in certain cases, this is also completely untrue in a number of other cases. Many Atheists and Agnostics have come back believing in a God for example. Many Christians come back believing in Reincarnation, that Other Religions are Valid Spiritual Paths, and other Unorthodox Hetrodox ideas. There are a number of cases of Hindus meeting Muhammed, Muslims meeting Buddha, Christians meeting a Figure of God other than Mainstream Christianity. (I know one Southern Baptist Christian who saw Shamanic Imagery in his NDE, and became a Shaman. I met another one who met a Demiurge Figure in Addition to a God Figure, which reflects Gnosticism.) A seven year old girl who was raised Christian saw deceased spirits of people waiting to be reborn (reincarnation) that goes against her belief system, etc.

I know an Atheist who had a very profound NDE when she was a child, and she had been raised non-religious, and she had experienced God in a Interconnected Oneness Context, that she was informed "All is One", and she said that she became and identified and connected with everything during her NDE. Very much in line with Eastern Spiritual Thought.

Skeptic Argument 7: Keith Augustine's Anti-NDE Article (The Skeptic's Trump Card)

Sources such as Keith Augustine's article will prey upon the perceived weakness of certain NDEs, out of their full context, while ignoring alternative explainations and far better and far stronger NDE examples, in an attempt to bring all NDEs down. The "weird" NDEs he presents are without context, and his sources are usually Christian Fundamentalist Anti-NDE Books (Not Kidding), and short excerpts from Books of NDE Researchers, taken out of their full context and presented without the full explaination of the NDE Researchers who are presenting them. His alternative explainations of Veridical NDEs ignore pesky facts and additional and alternative information that he convienently ignored to come to his conclusions.

The bulk of his arguments against specific veridical cases, revolve largely around presenting totally unprovable unverifiable highly speculative "coulda-woulda-shouldas" regarding how they "could have seen/heard those things naturally" while ignoring well presented alternative explainations, the full context of the specific cases, and ignoring all of the known facts and circumstances surrounding the matter at hand that conflict with his hastey conclusions. Basically, presenting personal speculation in such as way as to suggest that mere speculation is somehow as damning as actual facts. His arguments often revolve around presenting a totally one-sided view of things, ignoring what the other side has to fully say regarding it, and comes up with his own conclusion without the full data being presented there. There are times where he partially or very briefly and shortly presents what the other side has to say, but certainly not all of it, as much of what he does not present is very damning to his side of the argument.

http://www.survivalafterdeath.org/articles/carter/augustine.htm - Rebuttal to Keith Augustine's attack of "Does Consciousness depend on the Brain?"

http://michaelprescott.typepad.com/michael_prescotts_blog/2006/08/ndes_and_their_.html - Michael Prescott's indepth critique of Keith Augustine's Anti-NDE Article.

http://michaelprescott.typepad.com/michael_prescotts_blog/2007/07/who-will-watch-.html - Who Will Watch The Watchers (Michael Prescott debunks the Skeptic Sources that Keith Augustine used in an attempt to discredit Kimberly Clark's famous case)

FIN

I'm planning on making another indepth article on this subject eventually to tackle more indepth skeptical arguments that I didn't have time to tackle in this perticular article, although I feel that the whole of what I did tackle in this perticular article covers all of the main skeptical objections.

Sources:

http://www.near-death.com/evidence.html - Indepth NDE/OBE Evidence In Favor of Survival of Consciousness (53 Items of Evidence Presented, Full of Links, Sources, and Referances.)

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/articles001.html - A Critique of Susan Blackmore's Dying Brain Hypothesis by Greg Stone

http://www.esalenctr.org/display/confpage.cfm?confid=9&pageid=86&pgtype=1 - Transmission Theory of Consciousness

http://www.esalenctr.org/display/confpage.cfm?confid=9&pageid=95&pgtype=1 - Near Death Experiences as Evidence for Survival of Bodily Death

http://www.melvinmorse.com/e-tlp.htm - The Right Temporal Lobe And Associated Limbic Lobe Structures As The Biological Interface With An Interconnected Universe

http://profezie3m.altervista.org/archivio/TheLancet_NDE.htm - Van Lommel, Van Wees, Meyers, Elfferich (2001). Near-Death Experience in Survivors of Cardiac Arrest: A Prospective Study in the Netherlands. Lancet.

http://www.cinemind.com/atwater/VLommel.html - "About the Continuity of Our Consciousness" by Pim Von Lommel

http://www.mikepettigrew.com/afterlife/html/dutch_study.html - The Dutch Study

http://www.skepticalinvestigations.org/whoswho/vanLommel.htm - A great response by Pim Van Lommel against a Leading Skeptic regarding his research study.

"Autoscopic Evidence: Dr. Charles Tart's Out-of-Body Experience Research":

http://www.near-death.com/tart.html

"Psychophysiological Study of Out-of-the-Body Experiences in a Selected Subject":

http://web.archive.org/web/20060215224439/http://www.paradigm-sys.com/display/ctt_articles2.cfm?ID=31

Out-Of-Body Experiences (OBE or OOBE), Article by Mario Varvoglis, Ph.D.:

http://www.parapsych.org/out_of_body_experiences.htm

Out-of-Body Experience (OBE) Research:

http://library.thinkquest.org/C0120993/obefull.html

http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages/CIA-InitiatedRV.html - CIA-Initiated Remote Viewing At Stanford Research Institute

"In July 1995 the CIA declassified, and approved for release, documents revealing its sponsorship in the 1970s of a program at Stanford Research Institute in Menlo Park, CA, to determine whether such phenomena as remote viewing "might have any utility for intelligence collection". Thus began disclosure to the public of a two-decade-plus involvement of the intelligence community in the investigation of so-called parapsychological or psi phenomena. Presented here by the program's Founder and first Director (1972 - 1985) is the early history of the program, including discussion of some of the first, now declassified, results that drove early interest."

http://www.geocities.com/wwu777us/Debunking_Skeptical_Arguments.htm - Debunking Pseudo-Skeptical Arguments of Paranormal Debunkers

http://www.nderf.com/phpBB2/index.php - NDERF Forum, where lively Debate and Discussion of NDEs/OBEs takes place on a daily basis.

New Veridical Information and Additional Cases upcoming in my soon to be Revised Article on Psychic Dorothy Allison

Just letting everyone know, on the topic of my Dorothy Allison article, I recently bought the only known book (used since it's out of print) on Dorothy Allison that I could find entirely devoted to her and her cases, co-written by her, on her life and cases, written in 1980, that I know will shed additional light and new information on some of the cases I have already presented here in my indepth article on her, in addition to containing information on cases of hers I haven't yet read about.

From briefly skimming through it during the past several days, I have noticed that it does contain MUCH additional Veridical Information on those cases I've already profiled in my Article, but that it also contains MUCH information on new cases that I did not even know about before. From what I have read within it so far, the Veridical Information I have posted on each of these cases in my current Article generally covers only roughly HALF of the overall Veridical Data on these Cases. So actually, the cases I presented appear to actually be even more solid with the overall data than they appeared in my article. Think of my current article therefore as a "Preview" to my upcoming updated draft. The original will remain as a summery, the new one will be far more indepth.

The book also mentions certain misses and misdirected hits of Dorothy's in these cases, going chronologically from the beginning to the end of each case, so it's a fair presentation overall, and doesn't cover up things she got wrong or misdirected.

The most exciting thing is there are new cases within it that I can update my article with. I will be updating my article in the near future after I read the entirety of the book for it's contents of additional information on her cases, including some previously unknown to me. I'll let you all know then.

I wish I could somehow get in contact with one of Dorothy Allison's relatives, friends, or the law enforcement that worked with her, for additional information on her later cases past 1980 that I know are very intriguing, but little is known about. Maybe one of them will stumble upon my article online someday and contact me? Who knows.

She is definately a Psychic who needs more indepth material written about her and put out there. That's why I wrote my article. To get as much information as I know on her out there in one article.

Accourding to the information in the book, she never charged families ANY money for helping them find bodies or helping find out who the killer was, and in many case she later became very close friends with the family members of dead relatives she helped locate. However, accourding to some skeptic sources, she requested to be paid for her services to law enforcement, which is reasonable knowing there are a number of cases she actually flew to another state or at least a great distance to investigate, spending her time and effort to try to assist Police.

EDIT: A friend of mine suggested that I take the book "with a grain a salt" because it was co-written by Dorothy Allison. I'd like to point out however, that that's not how the book is at all. And it wasn't directly written by her, but by a man named Scott Jacobson, who consulted her, and obviously did his research independent of her. It's not written from a first person's perspective, it's a chronological timeline of events from her earliest cases up to 1980. It even mentions things down to the hour right, that I've read from other sources. Every single thing I've read in the book so far matches every other source I've read (including skeptic sources), including the misses and misdirected hits, those are also the same ones mentioned in Skeptic Sources. It even mentions misses and misdirected hits that AREN'T mentioned in any Skeptic Sources I've seen. You'd think that if the book were leaving anything out, that Skeptics would have picked up on anything not mentioned in it. Regardless, as it's the only book ever published on Psychic Dorothy Allison, it's the only indepth source I currently have independent of the others. That it currently matches everything exactly with the other sources I read (though giving much more indepth detailed information, additional hits, additional misses) it's really my best source at the moment.

"Material for this book was gathered from several sources. Dorothy's own retelling of the stories has been supported by newspaper and magazine articles and signed affidavits from many of the parties involved. In most cases, the families of the victims have cooperated fully, regardless of the fact that the interviews stirred unpleasent memories. Many of the law-enforcement officers involved have also given generously of their time in recounting their experiences with the psychic detective." - Scott Jacobson in Foreward to 'Dorothy Allison: A Psychic Story'

So, it does appear that the man who wrote it cross-referanced all of his material with the people involved and existing sources to confirm her stories.

- Eteponge

Exploring The Veridical Cases of Psychic Detective Dorothy Allison

Exploring The Veridical Cases of New Jeresy Housewife and Psychic Detective Dorothy Allison:

Dorothy Allison was first known to display Psychic Ability at the age of 14 when she correctly predicted the untimely death of her perfectly healthy father of pneumonia shortly before he unexpectedly caught it and passed away. She later married, had children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren. Her reputation as a Psychic Detective all started in 1967, when she unexpectedly had a vision of a small polish boy who had drowned, and went to the police with it, and her clues proved amazingly accurate and detailed and very specific to the case. This started the chain of events where she took up many such cases with Strongly Veridical Results overall. Her clues were like puzzle pieces, that once assembled, provided an amazingly accurate overall picture of the events. She was known as "The Human Radio", due to her picking up all of these Psychic Signals, which she described as like tuning into a Television Program or a Radio, where she would get these flashes of visuals or information, and have to interpret them.

I've provided ALL avalible information on each case presented. Hits, misses, and misdirected hits. I provided arguments from all sides. This is currently my article based masterpiece. It's the first indepth article of information of it's kind on the web on Psychic Detective Dorothy Allison that provides all known cases and all known information on all known cases and arguments from all sides. People should find the overall information presented within very intruging. It is my first attempt at a "full data" article.

Case I: The Little Boy Who Drowned In A Pipe

On December 3rd 1967, a little boy was playing with his brother along the riverbank, and disappeared. Psychic Dorothy Allison had a vision of the boy drowning and being caught in a pipe, a full two hours before the incident happened. She later contacted the police, who were very skeptical, but upon describing the little boy and the clothing he was wearing the morning of his disapperance exactly, information that had not been released to the public (no photo of the little boy had been released to the public either), they decided to take her insights seriously in an open-minded way. Here are the highlights of this perticular case...

Clues She Gave:

In her initial vision of the little boy, a full two hours BEFORE the child drown in the river. She saw him...

* In A Pipe.

* Hands Clasped Together.

* Wearing a Green Snow Suit, with a Polo Shirt with Stripes underneath, and an Undershirt beneath that with a Metal Pin on it, and his Shoes are on the wrong feet.

Additional Psychic Information that came through her during the police investigation, which was all relayed and documented a long while prior to his being discovered...

* The number 120 is significant.

* The number 8 is significant.

* He will be found behind a School.

* A Parking Lot behind an ITT Factory being significant.

* Lumber being significant.

* Gold Lettering on a Window being significant.

* He will be found on February 7th.

Conclusion:

* He was found floating in the river (where there had been pipes running up and down it, one of which unchecked may have released him as the snow began to thaw) on February 7th at approximately 1:20 in the afternoon. (Verified: February 7th as the date he would be found, and the significance of the number 120.)

* An Elementary School PS 8 stands at the riverbank nearby. (Verified: The significance of the number 8 and that he would be found behind a school.)

* Across the street is a Lumber Yard. (Verified: The significance of Lumber.)

* Next door is an office building with Gold Letters on the Window. (Verified: The significance of the Gold Lettering on a Window.)

* Directly across the river is the local ITT Factory and it's Parking Lot. (Verified: The signifiance of A Parking Lot behind an ITT Factory.)

* The boy when found had on ALL of the EXACT SAME CLOTHING that she had seen him wearing in her vision. (Verified: All details of clothing.)

* While his golaches were on the right feet, his undershoes were indeed on the wrong feet. (Verified: Shoes being on the wrong feet.)

Known Misses / Misdirections / Misinterpretations:

* She felt he would eventually be found in one of the many pipes along the river. He may have indeed been in one at some point like what she had seen in her initial vision, but the police when they searched the pipes in the river could not find him in them. He was later found floating in the river.

Case II: The Man Who Fell In Water

On December 20, 1974 a businessman got aboard a train to travel, but no one saw him get off of it at it's stop. He simply disappeared. Rumors circulated that he had embezzled and vanished, or run off with a mistress, they simply couldn't find the guy. So the police, knowing the reputation of Dorothy Allison, contacted her asking for her help. The police wrote down everything she said, a full three months before his body was discovered. Here are the highlights of this perticular case...

Clues She Gave:

* He Drowned. He fell off of the train and into water. He's in the Water.

* A Row of Tires is significant.

* A Little Park where kids slide down a hill on is significant. "I see a man in this water here" she said.

* A Bow and Arrow is significant.

* The number 2-2-2 is significant.

Conclusion:

* A father and his teenage son were Bow and Arrow target shooting on a bluff over a river when one Arrow missed their target and landed several feet from the dead man's body at the base of the riverbank. (Verified: The significance of a Bow and Arrow.)

* His body was found on February 22. (Verified: The significance of the number 2-2-2.)

* He had in fact fallen off of the train and drowned in the river. (Verified: Cause and Reason of Death.)

* Nearby was a park where Rows of Tires had been arranged to make a sled run. (Verified: The significance of a Row of Tires and the Park that kids use as a sled run.)

Known Misses / Misdirections / Misinterpretations:

* She mentioned a fire engine that kid's shouldn't play as being in the area. In all sources I read, it doesn't mention whether or not this clue was ever verified. It may or may not have been.

Case III: The Murdered Teenage Girl

On May 15, 1976, a teenage girl disappeared shortly after leaving her home. Her parents went to the police, who simply wrote her off as a runaway, and told them that they had neither the time nor manpower to search for an obvious runaway. The parents heard of Psychic Dorothy Allison by reputation, and arranged her to meet them at their home, after the police refused to take their daughter's disapperance seriously. Here are the highlights of this perticular case...

Clues She Gave:

* She asked the parents what 2562 means. (It was their daughter's birthday, February 5, 1962.)

* She asked what 408 or 405 meant, could be either one she was getting she said. (4:05 was the time their daughter was born.)

* She immediately got a vision that the daughter had been strangled by her boyfriend (and gave his name).

* She said that she would be found at a place with the words MAR written in Big Red Letters.

* She said that she is in water, but that she did not drown.

* She mentioned the Smell of Oil and 222.

* She mentioned an Abandoned Car.

* She mentioned Two Sets of Dual Church Steeples.

* She mentioned Dual Smoke Stacks.

*She mentioned Marshes and Swamps.

Conclusion:

* After the police refused to cooperate, the father went on his own search using Dorothy's Clues. He came to a Marshed and Swamped area in another town, where he saw Two Sets of Dual Church Steeples, and Dual Smoke Stacks, and decided to check out the area. (Verified: All of Those Specific Clues.)

* He found a rock with the words MAR written in Big Red Letters in the same area. (Verified: The words MAR written in Big Red Letters.)

* He found an Abandoned Car nearby in the same area. (Verified: Abandoned Car.)

* He never found her himself on his search, but sometime later, several teenagers found her body in the exact same area, merely 100 Yards from the rock with MAR written on it, with ALL of Dorothy's above Clues being clearly visible within eyesight from the placement of the body. (Verified: All of Those Specific Clues.)

* The body was found in a Water Hole, placed in an Oil Drum, and the Serial Number on the Oil Drum was 222. (Verified: That she was in water, but did not drown. The Smell of Oil. The significance of the number 222.)

* The boyfriend had in fact killed her, and was arrested and charged with her murder. He had in fact strangled her, placed her in an oil drum, and dumped her body in the water hole. (Verified: Cause of Death and The Person Responsible.)

Known Misses / Misdirections / Misinterpretations:

* The only known one in this perticular case is where she said the number 408 or 405, but she clarified that it could be either one that she was getting. It was 405 that was correct, the daughter's time of birth.

Case IV: Son of Sam

Dorothy Allison was consulted during the Son of Sam murders. Here are the highlights of this perticular case...

* She drew a very accurate Portrait of the killer that looked a lot like David Berkowitz.

* She correctly predicted that the killer would be caught because of a Parking Ticket.

No further information known.

Case V: Patty Hearst

Dorothy Allison was consulted during the Patty Hearst kidnapping. Here are the highlights of this perticular case...

* She gave precise details of the locations in Pennsylvania and New York where she was being held captive.

* She correctly predicted that she would bond with her kidnappers and assist them in a bank robbery.

No further information known.

Case VI: Her Own Death

* In 1990, Dorothy Allison advised her family that she was going to die shortly before her 75th birthday of heart disease. She passed away in December, 1999 from heart disease, just one month shy of her 75th birthday.

Case VII: Foreseen Deaths of Two Teenage Girls

It all started in March 1991 when Dorothy Allison was called on a case of a missing teenage girl. She couldn't pick up anything on the girl in question, but what she picked up instead was startling...

* What she saw was a girl dismembered and her various parts encased in cement. She said that one leg would be popping out.

* She later drove past a lake, and had a strong impression of a girl to whom something had happened, part of the same vision.

However, there was no such discovery. At least not right away. It appeared to be a complete miss.

However, several months later, in June 1991, another teenage girl went missing...

* Two weeks later, her body was discovered in the lake, dismembered, and encased in cement, each piece floating in a seperate block. (It was unverified however, if one leg was indeed "popping out" as Dorothy Allison had seen.)

So it seems she picked up nothing on the first girl, but had instead tuned into and seen the death of the second girl, months before it happened. A clear misdirected hit.

When Dorothy was contacted again, she stated that the body of another victim would soon be found. She said the girl would be strangled and that she would be found underneath some brush, where one could hear trickling water.

* Soon afterwards, another teenage girl nearby went missing, and two weeks after that, her nude body was found, strangled, underneath some brush, near a culvert.

Known Misses / Misdirections / Misinterpretations:

* She clearly picked up nothing in regards to the original girl she was there to investigate. She instead apparently picked up information on a girl who wasn't killed for another several months, and then on another girl who was later killed as well.

Case VIII: Ongoing Police Case Investigation of a Murdered Girl (Still a Cold Case)

This case was randomly chosen by the Television Program "Unsolved Mysteries" in 1988 to test Dorothy Allison's Psychic Ability. She was flown to another state, and took part in the investigation of an obscure murder case in an obscure town she had no way of knowing about. In April of 1984 a 15 year old school girl was murdered. Dorothy Allison was told nothing about the case beforehand. ALL of the below information that Dorothy gave was filmed as it happened in real time. Here are the highlights of this perticular case...

* She gave the name Chuck Goldstein or Bernstein and said he may have information. (This person does exist in this town, but it is unverified as to what became of this clue, and what this person knew.)

* She said the girl was walking along the same street that they (Dorothy and the Police) were driving on, and that she got as far as the library, where she met two brothers or two cousins or twin friends of hers right from her own neighborhood, who took her away in a real old yellow car. (The police did confirm the library was on the same street they were driving on, on the left, a ways down the road. But the rest of the details are unverified.)

* She said the girl had been raped and then murdered. That she had been hit in the head but it hadn't killed her. That suffacation was what killed her, but it wasn't a strangling around the neck, she choked on something, a choking IN the throat, that she had something placed in her throat during the attack that suffacated her. (ALL of these details were 100% correct and verified by the Police, and the Police added that this information was NEVER made public, especially the way she died, a foreign object lodged in her throat.)

* The Number 17 (or 1 and 7) is significant. (It turned out that Number 17 is the Cemetary Plot Number of the murdered girl's grave.)

* The word Cleveland is significant. (It turned out that the last street sign before the Crimescene is at a turnoff called Clevelandtown Road.)

* An Old Church is significant. (Half a mile from where the body was found there is An Old Church.)

* She gave graphic details of how and why the girl was killed, and even the name of the killer, but it was bleeped out. The case is still unsolved, so much is still unverified. It will be interesting to see how it all panned out if the person or persons are ever caught.

Case IX: Misc Cases

Misc Case I:

An elderly alzheimer's patient disappeared from a nursing home. Dorothy Allison was called into the case. Here are the highlights of this perticular case...

* She said he was near a wooded area, where there are caves, near a mountain.

* She said the Number 5 is significant.

Conclusion:

* He was found in a wooded area, near a copper mine, near a mountain, 2.5 miles from the nursing home. And the only house on the road he was found on, was house number 5. (The house number on the house was 5.)

No other details are known.

Misc Case II:

Dorothy on an investigation interviewed a non-suspect of a crime, "saw" that he had actually killed the girl, confronted him, she even mentioned the murder weapon to him, he later confessed to Police. (Though it is uncertain as to whether or not he confessed because of Dorothy. No other details are known of this case.)

Misc Case III:

Dorothy Allison met the director of the Unsolved Mysteries episode that she starred in, and upon seeing the woman with him who would later become his wife, she pointed to her and said to her...

* 3/27! 3/27! (March 27th is her birthday.)

* The woman asked Dorothy if there is anything she should look out for. Dorothy told her that her husband is going to have a heart attack. (That same day, hours later, her ex-husband had a heart attack. This hit was slightly misdirected, as he was once her husband, but wasn't at the time. It was the ex-husband, not the current one, that had the heart attack.)

Case X: JonBenet Ramsey Murder, Portrait of a Pseudo-Killer (A Misdirected Hit?)

Dorothy Allison stated that John and Patt Ramsey were innocent, and she drew a sketch of the person she "saw" as the killer of JonBenet Ramsey, and it looked remarkably like modern day suspect John Karr. He looked very different in 1998 when she originated drew the drawing, and the portrait actually looks more like him today with his receeding hairline, than how he looked back then.

A misdirected hit? John Karr has now been eliminated as a suspect, but in 2006 he was arrested and thought to be the killer, and looked at the time remarkably like the man in the drawing, drawn eight years earlier.

It is very possible, as a human receiver for information, that she tuned in and foresaw the modern media hoopla surrounding him being taken into custody and practically everyone thinking he was the killer finally caught, and she interpreted that received reception as him being the killer, much like many of us did. John Karr knew many intimate details of the crime, which makes it obvious that Dorothy would zero in on him as the killer. But DNA Evidence seems to exclude him. So who knows?

Skeptics count this case as a complete miss, but the above explaination is still very plausible, especially given that many of her documented misses are misdirected hits, and this case seems to fit that mold.

Dorothy Allison also stated in regards to this case, "This man went unnoticed in the house. The Ramsey's are not responsible for the death of the child. This is my true and honest belief." "I keep seeing the man that took her. I keep seeing he had a problem. This much I can reveal to you. I know he had trouble with his hip and leg, and I'd like to kick the other one so he can't walk at all."

I have no idea if the hip and leg problems are related to John Karr. If not, maybe in this instance she was focusing in on the real killer?

That's the tough thing with Psychic Visions, they are often hard to interpret save in hindsight when it all comes together, then they happen to fit together like pieces of a puzzle. Misdirected information pops up from time to time as well.

Case XI: The Cult Boy (Clear Miss or Misdirected Hit?)

Dorothy Allison was on a case of a missing boy. Accourding to a police officer on the case, she got MANY details of the case right. (I have been unable to find out what these specific details were however.) Except one detail was glaringly wrong, or so it seemed. She said the boy is dead. However, it turned out that the boy was very much alive, at least in the physical sense, as he had ran away and joined a cult. When asked about this, Dorothy clarified that she had seen his "spiritual death", as the boy they now know is not the same person as he was before he joined this dangerous cult. Clear Miss or Misdirected Hit? In what way was the boy dead? Depends on how you interpret it.

Conclusion and Comments:

Skeptics have stated that the way Dorothy Allison works is by throwing out random vague clues that are very general and could be applied to virtually anything and any crime, and then the Police and family members will "retro-fit" the information after the case is solved.

However, I'd like to point out that many of the clues are far from being vague, general stuff that would fit virtually anything and any crime. Let's recap several cases...

2562 being the daughter's birthday, 405 being the time the daughter was born, MAR in Big Red Letters on a Rock near the body, Smell of Oil she was in a drum, and 222 being the Serial Number on the Oil Drum, and a number of other visual clues all within 100 yards of the body in plain visual sight. The boyfriend's name, that he had strangled her. The Policed treated the disapperance as a runaway, Dorothy Allison saw otherwise.

The entire description of the drowned child being accurate in each and every detail and layer of clothing, including the metal pin on the third undershirt and that the shoes would be on the wrong feet. All sorts of numerous visual location information being within visual sight of the body, that he would specifically be found February 7th, and he was found at 1:20 in the afternoon showing the significance of the number 120.

That the man on the train had fallen from the train into the water, even though police suspected he had embezzled or ran off with a mistress. The Bow and Arrow significance which was how his body was discovered, when a stray arrow from people bow and arrow shooting above the riverbank missed it's target and landed right next to his corpse below on the riverbank. The row of tires on a sleded hill next to where the body was found, and 2-2-2 in this case was February 22, the date the body was found.

That the Son of Sam killer would be caught because of a Parking Ticket, such an obscure foreseen detail, not to mention the Accurate Portrait of the Killer. That Patty Hearst would bond with her kidnappers and rob a bank with them, not to mention her pinpointing locations where she was held.

That she would die shortly before her 75th birthday of heart disease, and did just a month short of her 75th birthday.

Accurately picking up that a girl in the area would be dismembered, encased in cement, dumped in a specific lake. And another girl in the general area would be found nude, strangled, covered with brush, and placed near running water. Both before they happend, one several months before it happened.

Etc. Etc. Etc.

Yes, many of her clues didn't make connectable sense at the time, because certain details hadn't even happened yet, but later fit together like solid pieces of a crucial puzzle.

Could these crimes have been solved or prevented with the information she provided? Maybe, maybe not. One detective who worked with Dorothy Allison said in retrospect that he should have realized that this and that clue and statement meant this and that, and kicked himself that he wasn't keen enough to zero in on it in time.

However, that one murdered teenage girl's dad, following Dorothy's clues, did find the *exact correct location* where her body was later found, in an obscure area of another town a good distance away in a marsh area. That's one case at least, where all of her viable clues were zeroed in on and put to good use to find the exact location before the body was discovered, as the father found the exact location where the body was later found, with all of the viable clues being within visual sight of where the body was later found. Especially the MAR words written in big red letters on a rock within visual sight of the water hole where the body was kept.

Dorothy Allison also did point out the lake where the dismembered girl was later found encased in cement, several months before it happened.

Retro-Fitting? More like "Puzzle-Fitting".

Personally, with all of these cases and veridical details as a whole, I see it as being more than likely that something more is going on here than mere "coincidence".

This is why I consider Dorothy Allison to have been one of the most credible psychic sleuths out there, and why I obviously disagree with one-sided skeptics who proclaim that no purported Psychic Detective has EVER contributed ANY useful veridical information or lead to the location of ANY body or accurately described ANY killer in all of recorded history. To that accusation, I clearly call BULL.

Sure, there are many psychic frauds out there, just as there are frauds in virtually every profession and field and phenomenon, but just because you find a lot of counterfeit money out there, doesn't mean that all money must therefore be counterfeit.

On one last note, world renowned polygraph expert Dr. Ed Geld once tested Dorothy Allison and asked her how she obtained her information, and she answered entirely truthfully in the polygraph test that the information came from her psychic abilities. Dr. Ed Geld found her to be answering very honestly and truthfully, that she fully believed what she was saying was true, that there was no conscious deception on her part.

- Eteponge

Claim that scientists recreated OBEs untrue. Debunking an inaccurate news story.

Here is the recent news claim...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070823/sc_afp/usscienceparanormal_070823220839 - Scientists recreate out-of-body experiences (no drugs)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6960612.stm - Out-of-body experience recreated

http://www.nature.com/news/2007/070820/full/070820-9.html - Illusion mimics out-of-body experiences

That is the claim that news stories are running with, but a closer examination reveals this simply isn't true at all.

The device used in the new research in question is nothing more than an optical illusion, where the person is fully conscious and alert, and placed in a stagnate simulated autoscopy perception generated by virtual reality. Totally different than a real OBE.

In a real OBE for example, the person is either in an unconscious state or a flat-lined state where brain-wave activity is nill, the person is completely detached from all feeling and senses of the physical body, sometimes the person will have 360 degree ultra clear vision from every angle of the room, and the person actually wanders around while OBE in many cases, not staying stagnate in one position, wandering far outside of their line of sight, like going into the hallway, or the waiting room, or the roof of the building, going into the street and other areas, and Veridically seeing & hearing events, objects, people, writing, events, and conversations there, which can later be checked and verified to be true in a number of well documented and well researched cases. There are even well documented cases of persons who are blind and persons who were born blind having visually veridical OBEs.

Dr. Jeff Long of NDERF / OBERF (NDE/OBE Research Foundation) has reviewed both articles in this week's issue of the Journal Science, including commentary. He also provided comments on the articles by NDE Researcher P.M.H. Atwater L.H.D.

http://www.nderf.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=22614#22614

Highlights: "Neither research team claimed to produce an OBE. Both research tems were clear they were tricking the body's sensory system and creating an illusion. Apparently no research subject in either study claimed to have a real OBE. These studies got a lot more press coverage than was warrented by the limited significance of their findings."

"A true, real out-of-body experience, especially if an aspect or component of the near-death phenomenon, typically involves extensive movement and interaction not only within the environment of the individual, but in novel, different, or far-flung environments unknown to the individual that are explored and investigated at length. When these individuals return to their bodies, they are able to recount in detail what they observed, heard, touched, sensed, smelled, and witnessed. Third-party verification of such details is commonplace."

"True out-of-body experiences do not match the results of the experiments conducted by the two neuroscientists reported on in Science Journal. What they did find, though, is quite intriguing and may indeed explain the phenomenon of the double-walker counterpart people have claimed that they had - since the earliest of times."

I personally found it quite amusing to see misinformed one-sided skeptics on science forums running with this misunderstood research screaming, "I told you so! Another example of science over superstition!" Which objectively proves that being one-sided is being dumb-sided, as the vast majority of skeptics I have met have never honestly researched BOTH SIDES of the issue regarding these things. Confirmation Bias is LOL. (I on the otherhand *constantly* read up on all sides of the issue regarding these Phenomenon, reading material from both Researchers and Skeptics).

If they had, they would have known that the research in question produced NOTHING like a real OBE, and regardless can not explain the overwhelming numbers of Veridical Details obtained during real OBEs, especially those that have been documented as occuring during a state in which the brain waves are flat-lined following cardiac arrest.

Introduction

Hi. I'm Eteponge. I'm going to start posting my Research Findings and Research Articles here on the Topic of various Paranormal Phenomenon. Anything new I write up or any new information I come across, I will put here.

I want to give every single Phenomenon, Veridical Case, and Person I post about a fair all-sided view of things, to eliminate bias. I want to write about hits and misses, Veridical Elements and Non-Veridical Elements, Pro-Arguments and Anti-Arguments, Counter-Arguments from BOTH SIDES, and simply the data and facts as a whole, presented as is.

That is my goal.